that is the message these guys are sending in michigan. it is basically the domestic thing you are seeing in the arab spring, the protests against morsi in cairo, they were completely peaceful and the muslim brotherhood show up to protest and seven people difficult. there is always an advantage to the side that means it and to the side that is willing to apply the muscle so i don't think the unions understand the people call the message. >>neil: what i am wondering, what happens now. obviously they are upset and taking it to the next level and feel emboldened after the president's re-election is they will not give up without a fight and it could be nasty. what do you see? >>guest: they are not. they understand, this is an amazing decision in michigan and if it goes this way across the country, it is very bad news. these guys will be at a tipping point and they don't want to go that way. you are seeing a glimpse of what the future is like as america gets broker and broker, that you will see people prepared to do all kinds of things out ther